my first reaction right after you question comparing or asking if theres portmanteau in ASL. Probably yes I reacted first, and then upon more thinking, probably not. Two signs become one sign. two words become one word. Sure. yes and no probably would be the answer. probably more yes than no. dig further with lit. experts etc will bring more light into what you brought up.
Bring forth more of your ruminations into the internet. ASL, English, Linguistics and Literature and the interplays among them. More, can you?
That is precisely my intention of my exposure to the Internet, to use my best ability in Literature, my ability to write poems and to show how ASL is comparable to poems.
Indeed, I just brought this idea up and will start the analysis of portmanteau and whether ASL uses portmanteau or not. I have very strong feeling that ASL *DO* use portmanteau in esoteric way that ONLY Deaf can understand (possibly including CODAs.)
With further discussion in this subject, I could use these ideas as a resource to start the research.
In this instance, my favorite poem is "Jabberwocky" with a lot of portmanteau that took place. It is the world's most nonsense poem, yet popular. It is even found in "Alice in Wonderland" where Cheshire the cat recited that poem over and over.
`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe.
None of these words are found in dictionary, yet portrays the author's witty imagination. A lot of us could not understand that poetry, yet it's an art of poetry.
ASL in a lot of ways are similar to portmanteau -- a sign that symbolizes a word that doesn't even exist but do include several words in the picture that only Deaf can detect and interpret.
This is a very good, educational analysis, offering a rich sampling of American Sign Language! The possibilities in using ASL are unlimited. I am very much intrigues by your perspective that will also appeal to students of ASL and to people who learn about Deaf people. Thank you, Scott!
I would love to see you sign "Jabberwocky" in your NEXT vlog. The late Velez of California, one of the first deaf actors of the NTD (National Theatre of the Deaf), did sign "Jabberwocky" in the 1960s. Beautifully expressed. Each signed word was indescribly expressive.
Whoo! Deep stuff! I consider myself a pretty smart cookie, but I was challenged with the concepts you were trying to share. I did get the concept of Portamanteau, but needed more clarification about how ASL is similar. It's a new concept and worth expanding. I read the comments above and was able to pull a little more, but I was left wanting more visual exampled to make this concept gel. I am deaf, and fluent in ASL, but this was a challenging concept. More please. :) I want to understand.
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my first reaction right after you question comparing or asking if theres portmanteau in ASL. Probably yes I reacted first, and then upon more thinking, probably not. Two signs become one sign. two words become one word. Sure. yes and no probably would be the answer. probably more yes than no. dig further with lit. experts etc will bring more light into what you brought up.
Bring forth more of your ruminations into the internet. ASL, English, Linguistics and Literature and the interplays among them. More, can you?
cnkatz,
That is precisely my intention of my exposure to the Internet, to use my best ability in Literature, my ability to write poems and to show how ASL is comparable to poems.
Indeed, I just brought this idea up and will start the analysis of portmanteau and whether ASL uses portmanteau or not. I have very strong feeling that ASL *DO* use portmanteau in esoteric way that ONLY Deaf can understand (possibly including CODAs.)
With further discussion in this subject, I could use these ideas as a resource to start the research.
In this instance, my favorite poem is "Jabberwocky" with a lot of portmanteau that took place. It is the world's most nonsense poem, yet popular. It is even found in "Alice in Wonderland" where Cheshire the cat recited that poem over and over.
`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
None of these words are found in dictionary, yet portrays the author's witty imagination. A lot of us could not understand that poetry, yet it's an art of poetry.
ASL in a lot of ways are similar to portmanteau -- a sign that symbolizes a word that doesn't even exist but do include several words in the picture that only Deaf can detect and interpret.
Here is the full poem of Jabberwocky here:
Jabberwocky by Lewis Carroll
This is a very good, educational analysis, offering a rich sampling of American Sign Language! The possibilities in using ASL are unlimited. I am very much intrigues by your perspective that will also appeal to students of ASL and to people who learn about Deaf people. Thank you, Scott!
I would love to see you sign
"Jabberwocky" in your NEXT vlog.
The late Velez of California, one of the first deaf actors of the NTD (National Theatre of the Deaf), did sign "Jabberwocky" in the 1960s. Beautifully expressed.
Each signed word was indescribly expressive.
Whoo! Deep stuff! I consider myself a pretty smart cookie, but I was challenged with the concepts you were trying to share. I did get the concept of Portamanteau, but needed more clarification about how ASL is similar. It's a new concept and worth expanding. I read the comments above and was able to pull a little more, but I was left wanting more visual exampled to make this concept gel. I am deaf, and fluent in ASL, but this was a challenging concept. More please. :) I want to understand.
~ LaRonda
Hi Scott!
I would like to have your help for my ASL poems/poetry.
Can you email me at debannmow5@yahoo.com?
Thanks!
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